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W. Hoops marketing and other Random Ivy notes

Zach Klitzman

In case you were worried that Penn Athletics was only focusing on marketing the men’s basketball team, the women’s basketball team is also receiving the wisdom of Nelligan Sports Marketing.

Against Drexel Dec. 19, the team will attempt to set an all-time attendance record for a home game as part of the yearly “Pack the House” Challenge. Part of the campaign also includes getting school groups to come to the Palestra — a necessity, since the game is during winter break.

Of all the women’s basketball games I’ve been to, the most spectators I’ve ever seen is about 200. So there’s certainly a lot of seats to be filled in the Palestra. Also it’s interesting that both the women’s and men’s games against Drexel this year are part of NCAA-wide gimmicks. The men’s team will play at Drexel for the first time ever, and it’ll be at 10 a.m. as part of ESPN’s 14-hour hoops marathon.

Here are two other Random Ivy notes:

1) Ivysport.com, which for the most part is a site that sells Ivy League apparel, has an “infopedia” on the Ivy League. Most of you probably already know the vast majority of what’s on this site, but in case you ever want to find out which Ivy League school doesn’t have a Latin motto (Cornell), or you want to see a good timeline of Ivy League history, this is the site for you.

2) Pumped up for college basketball after The Line?  Well here’s a reason to like every single basketball team in America.  Penn’s reason:

Glenn Miller has himself a deep rotation. Darren Smith and Tommy McMahon missed last season. Zach Rosen leads the recruiting class that’s pretty awesome. Harrison Gaines has an awesome rich man name. And the Quakers have four returning starters. Flat out.

FINAL: Penn 15, Columbia 10

Live Game Updates

Andrew Scurria here for The Buzz. Thanks for joining me for today’s home game against Columbia. It’s a sparse crowd and a sparser press corps but the air is crisp and the game is there for the taking.

FINAL: Penn 15, Columbia 10

Under pressure, Kelly threw up a wild, wobbly pass into the arms of Penn defensive back Josh Powers. Irvin took a knee; game over.

Check back with us for lots more coverage in the next DP.

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1:22 Fourth quarter: Penn 15, Columbia 10

They got the stop, but now the Lions will have to march all the way down the field — 86 yards — in under a minute and a half with no time outs. Warm up the bus.

2:24 Fourth quarter: Penn 15, Columbia 10

I must confess that I have no idea what just happened. On that crucial fourth down, Columbia committed a false start penalty — and Wilson then decided not to go for it, but instead to punt it away and count on its defense to stop Penn right away. Either way, Columbia needs a stop — if Penn gets a first down, game over.

2:37 Fourth quarter: Penn 15, Columbia 10

Columbia is running out of time and has to convert a fourth-and-13 to stay alive.

4:23 Fourth quarter: Penn 15, Columbia 10

Penn put together a great drive, and wideout Kyle Derham caught a pass on a slant route that would have brought the Quakers within field-goal range. But an illegal blocking penalty — another one! — pushed them back, and Olson punted yet again, and yet again Columbia will start a drive from inside the 10.

11:36 fourth quarter: Penn 15, Columbia 10

Columbia went three-and-out as well. Jon Rocholl punted from the Lions endzone, but the combination of a great kick and an illegal blocking penalty on Penn means that the Quakers start this drive at their 30.

12:40 fourth quarter: Penn 15, Columbia 10

Yawn. Another punt, another Columbia drive starting — this one from their own 12. Let’s see if either team can make this game remotely exciting.

0:26 Third quarter: Penn 15, Columbia 10

Wilson chooses not to go for it on fourth-and-the-length-of-a-fingernail, and karma punishes him with a short, offline punt. Penn will start at its 37. Robert Irvin is back in for Penn after almost a whole quarter with Kyle Olson under center.

4:24 Third quarter: Penn 15, Columbia 10

Penn almost put together a nice drive, but a 15-yard pass interference penalty on wideout David Wurst killed it. Another good punt from Olson follows, and Columbia will need 85 yards to take the lead.

7:57 Third quarter: Penn 15, Columbia 10

Once again, the Quakers couldn’t make anything of the opportunity. Olson punted to inside the Lions’ 20, and Columbia also then went three-and-out. And then… missed snap to the punter and.. SAFETY. What a day for Columbia so far. They outgain Penn two-to-one through two and a half quarters and have a 15-10 score and an embarassing safety to show for it.

11:44 Third quarter: Penn 13, Columbia 10

About the only thing keeping the Penn offense on the field is Shane Kelly. The Columbia quarterback just made another big mistake, underthrowing a long pass by at least six yards. It went right into the hands of Ertman, his second interception of the day. Norries Wilson, Columbia’s coach, is giving Kelly a tongue-lashing as I write.

13:04 Third quarter: Penn 13, Columbia 10

After that terrible second quarter of offense, Bagnoli brought Olson, Penn’s backup quarterback, in for the second half’s first series. Result: another three-and-out. Olson then punted it to the Lions’ 42.

Halftime Stats

First downs: Penn 3, Columbia 12. Rushing attempts-yards: Penn 16-23, Columbia 25-148. Passing yards: Penn 57, Columbia 65. Total yards: Penn 80, Columbia 213. Time of possession: Penn 12:04, Columbia 17:56.

Halftime: Penn 13, Columbia 10

A long attempt from Columbia backup quarterback M.A. Olawale falls short. Halftime.

1:10 Second quarter: Penn 13, Columbia 10

Now it’s the Penn offense that is sputtering. A three-and-out forces Penn to punt, and Kyle Olson boots it to the Columbia 34. It would have been a great time for a fake, but I guess Al Bagnoli didn’t want to take a chance still pretty deep in Penn territory.

2:09 Second quarter: Penn 13, Columbia 10

Kelly found Knowlin, who beat Penn’s Jonathan Saelinger on the single coverage, for a six-yard touchdown pass. Nine plays and 67 yards on that drive for Columbia. Mildly impressive.

2:21 Second quarter: Penn 13, Columbia 3

Columbia’s running game has suddenly come alive as the first half draws to a close. They’ve gone nearly the length of the field and will try to punch in a touchdown from the Penn 14 when the teams come back. Penn just took its final time-out.

8:51 Second quarter: Penn 13, Columbia 3

Penn’s Bradford Blackman punched it in from a yard out on third down and Samson converted the PAT, giving the Quakers a 10-point lead. It’s Blackman’s first touchdown of the year.

10:10 Second quarter: Penn 6, Columbia 3

The Lions tried to run and option and Kelly pitched the ball to sophomore running back Zach Kourouma — but Kourouma missed the ball, and Ertman (him again!) picked up the ball and returned it to the two-yard line. Penn could go up by two scores in a hurry if they convert. Terribly costly mistake for Columbia.

10:51 Second quarter: Penn 6, Columbia 3

All Penn got out of that opportunity was a 31-yard field goal, but it’s a lead at least. Andrew Samson is looking good.

12:04 Second quarter: Penn 3, Columbia 3

How do I even explain what just happened? Columbia was inside its own 20, facing a second-and-14, when Kelly took the snap, turned around and ran comically headlong into a teammate he didn’t know was there. The ball popped loose and now the Quakers take over at the Columbia 18.

1:56 First quarter: Penn 3, Columbia 3

The score may be tied, but Columbia’s offense is not looking so hot. They have no running game whatsoever and were forced to punt after getting 12 yards into Penn territory. It went long for a touchback and Penn takes over.

1:56 First quarter: Penn 3, Columbia 3

The score may be tied, but Columbia’s offense is not looking so hot. They have no running game whatsoever and were forced to punt after getting 12 yards into Penn territory. It went long for a touchback and Penn takes over.

4:49 First quarter: Penn 3, Columbia 3

Penn got the Lions’ 48 on their last drive and decided to go for it on fourth-and-2. but Robert Irvin bobbled the snap, and Columbia recovered the fumble. They now take over.

6:56 First quarter: Penn 3, Columbia 3

Ertman came up with another big play — a batted-down pass intended for Columbia’s best receiver, Austin Knowlin — and the Lions were forced to settle for a field goal. Jon Rocholl booted a line drive through from 36 away. Eight plays, 42 yards, 3:39 elapsed on that drive.

9:40 First quarter: Penn 3, Columbia 0

Penn got a 37-yard field goal by Andrew Samson out of the last drive. Now it’s Columbia’s turn, and it’s putting together a good drive too. Kelly just completed a long pass to Taylor Joseph to the Penn 39.

12:42 First quarter: Penn 0, Columbia 0

Columbia received the opening kickoff and started with good field position, but Lions quarterback Shane Kelly threw an interception to Penn’s Britton Ertman (a terrible interception) on the second play from scrimmage. Ertman returned it 40 yards to the Columbia 30, where Penn is driving now.

Blame Amy Gutmann?

Zach Klitzman

A blog dedicated to  Columbia football — yes, the same Columbia football team that is currently on a 12-game losing streak — just wrote a post about Al Bagnoli and the quick turnaround of the Penn football team he masterminded in the early 1990s.

But as Quakers fans know, the last four years have brought zero Ivy League titles and three straight losing Ivy campaigns. Why the decline?  Well, according to the post, maybe Penn President Amy Gutmann is to blame.

But 2003 was the last time Penn won the football title. And that’s also when current Penn president Amy Gutmann came on the scene.

Could the two incidents be related? When I asked Bagnoli last year if he felt he was getting enough support from the administration, he mostly shrugged. I get the feeling he had more to say … but couldn’t.

And then later:

For all I know, Gutmann is supporting athletics more than anyone at Penn, but the time parallels here are pretty clear. This is not only the longest championship drought for Bagnoli, his Quaker teams have had three straight losing Ivy seasons! And basketball fell off a cliff in 2007-08 for the first time in… forever.

Oh, and quarterback Robert Irvin is also to blame, says the blog, despite the fact that he was injured for all but 1.5 games last year and performed well in his sophomore season when he earned honorable mention All-Ivy honors.

Although this post is more than a little suspect — Gutmann surely can’t be blamed for Penn’s football woes — the blog, Roar Lions Roar, actually does have some legitimate information. Some links of note for Penn fans:

Will Lions WR Austin Knowlin have a big game on Saturday?

Is there a rivalry between Penn and Columbia?

Scouting Penn

Penn Fifth in Pennsylvania

Zach Klitzman

Similar to Storming the Floor’s ranking of each state by overall winning percentage, CollegeHoops.net has a state by state ranking of each D-I men’s basketball program. The rankings are based mostly on the last five years’ results, not on upcoming predictions.

In Pennsylvania’s ranking, Penn came in a respectable fifth. The top four were Pittsburgh then Big 5 members Villanova, St. Joseph’s and Temple, in that order. Besides those last three schools, the Quakers will play four other teams from Pennsylvania: No. 7 Drexel, No. 8 Penn State, No. 12 La Salle and No. 13 Lafayette.

The only top-ranked school Penn will play this year is UNC, who edged out Duke for tops in North Carolina.

After the jump, the rankings of the other Ivy League teams

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Harvard Beats Yale 29-29 the Movie

Zach Klitzman

Don’t know how this one fell through the cracks, but director Kevin Rafferty submitted a film about the infamous 1968 football game between Harvard and Yale that ended in a 29-29 tie to the Toronto International Film Festival last month. Here’s a review of the film.

Basketball notes

Zach Klitzman

With the first official basketball practices just a few weeks away, here are some Penn basketball notes.

1) Here’s the Sporting News’ preview of the Ivy League. It’s not that different from Athlon’s or Lindy’s, as Penn is selected second behind Cornell.

(HT The Cornell Basketball Blog)

2) ESPN analyst Andy Katz writes about ESPN’s college hoops marathon on Nov. 18, including the Penn-Drexel game at 10 a.m (The relevant paragraph is about one quarter of the way down.)

3) Storming The Floor ran an interesting series that ranks the 36 states with at least three D-I basketball programs by combined winning percentage of the teams in that state.  Pennsylvania comes in 17th with a .524 winning percentage. Each state’s page also has other categories, and Penn earned the best venue (no surprise there) and recognition as STF’s Favorite Program from Pennsylvania.

Random Ivy notes for 10/1 [updated]

Zach Klitzman

Even though I’m posting these links as they come instead of every Wednesday, I actually have some today.

1) The first concerns the College of New Jersey Princeton. In a fascinating coincidence, two of the most accomplished Princeton athletes of all-time — basketball legend Bill Bradley and football star Dick Kazmaier — both wore number 42 on their jersey. Although 42 has been unofficially retired from the football and basketball teams, the number will be uniformly (no pun intended) retired for all Princeton athletics teams in a ceremony on Oct. 24.

Bradley, a former U.S. senator and Presidential candidate, took the Tigers to the 1965 Final Four and earned National Player of the Year recognition that same season. Kazmaier, meanwhile, won the 1951 Heisman Trophy and Maxwell Award as a member of the Tigers.

2) With the Major League Baseball playoffs starting today, here’s a trivia question: Who is the only active MLB player who is a former all-Ivy League quarterback? If you answered former Penn student Mark DeRosa of the Cubs, you’d be correct. In fact, DeRosa is the only current Major Leaguer who graduated from Wharton. Here’s a profile The New York Times did on the 1996 Penn grad who played both baseball and football for the Quakers.

UDPATE: The Inquirer also did a piece on DeRosa. (HT Jonathan Tannewald, of Soft Pretzel Logic.)

3) The biggest news story recently has been the financial crisis.  Not too surprisingly, three people critical to our economy’s recovery have Ivy connections. But what you might not have known is that one of the three — Secretary of the Treasury Henry Paulson — was a Dartmouth offensive lineman. ESPN.com’s Ivan Maisel dedicated part of his I-Formation column today to Paulson’s past football exploits. (It’s the fifth item on the right side.)

Saturday scores

Andrew Scurria

And if you need something to distract you from Penn’s loss in Easton yesterday, look in today’s and Tuesday’s DP for analysis of Penn wrestling coach Zeke Jones’s resignation.

Wait — less than two months before the season, the coach of one of Penn’s better programs leaves town?

Surprised?

So was I.

Amaker in more hot water

Zach Klitzman

The Harvard men’s basketball team might have been cleared of any wrongdoing in recruitment, but coach Tommy Amaker is back in hot water.  According to a New York Times article, Amaker recently cut five players, including all three of the team’s sophomores. Most importantly, all of the five were recruited by his predecessor, Frank Sullivan.

Now, in any Division-I conference except the Ivy League, this wouldn’t be that big of a deal (or so says the Times).  But besides going against the spirit of the Ivy League, Amaker did this in one of the worst ways possible.  Instead of making the cuts either in the spring or summer, which would have given the players a chance to transfer to another school, he waited until they had registered for fall classes. Furthermore, he didn’t even give them a chance to compete for their spots this year. In fact, the three sophomores who were kicked off all started at least one game last year, yet they were shown the door — presumably just to make room for Amaker’s own recruits.

This forced exodus isn’t breaking any rules.  But for the second time in the past year, Amaker’s management of the team has clearly been questioned.

Random Ivy notes

Zach Klitzman

In the past few weeks, I’ve had a lot of seemingly random posts, ranging from connections of the Ivy League to the NFL, to Cornell’s basketball team as the best ever to Ivy League hoops previews that are two months early.

But starting today, I’m going to try something a little different. From now on, I’ll collect these randomly related Ivy League and/or Penn links that aren’t time sensitive and post them each Wednesday. And any story with a more direct news link, such as Cornell’s Adam Gore tearing his ACL or analysis of the just-released men’s basketball schedule, will get posted ASAP.

So without further ado, here’s the first couple of links:

1) In honor of Yankee Stadium closing Sunday night, Jim Caple, of ESPN.com’s Page 2, ranked “America’s 100 most important sports venues.” The title is pretty important, because Caple specifically states it’s neither the best venues nor his favorites, and it’s not just stadiums (ESPN’s headquarters comes in at No. 10).

Penn gets on the list twice. The Palestra comes in at No. 34, while Franklin Field makes the cut at No. 71. (The Palestra actually gets one of the few photos.) ESPN praising Penn athletic facilities isn’t anything new, but it’s still nice to see our stadiums mentioned on the most-read sports website. The only other Ivy venue is the Yale bowl, and Penn is one of just two universities to have both on-campus football and basketball venues listed (Tennessee is the other).

2) This might be a month old, but if you’re sad that the Penn football team just lost its fifth overtime game in its last 16 contests, just remember, at least you don’t root for Columbia.