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	<title>Comments on: Cheez whiz and immigration: unlikely bedfellows</title>
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		<title>By: student</title>
		<link>http://lamp.dailypennsylvanian.com/thespin/2008/01/18/cheez-whiz-and-immigration-unlikely-bedfellows/#comment-2229</link>
		<dc:creator>student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 06:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another liberal dyke.  Good thing this is a shitty blog with negligible traffic.  Don't label those with whom you disagree "xenophobic," you anti-American piece of shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another liberal dyke.  Good thing this is a shitty blog with negligible traffic.  Don&#8217;t label those with whom you disagree &#8220;xenophobic,&#8221; you anti-American piece of shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Undergrad</title>
		<link>http://lamp.dailypennsylvanian.com/thespin/2008/01/18/cheez-whiz-and-immigration-unlikely-bedfellows/#comment-2228</link>
		<dc:creator>Undergrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 06:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lauren: I take offense to you calling me and others who support Mr. Vento "xenophobic conservatives."  I do consider myself conservative, but I am in no way xenophobic.  Of the four years that I've spent at Penn, two were spent living with non-Americans.  I had great experiences with both of my foreign roommates.  Moreover, I fully support legal immigration to the United States.  Like most Americans, I'm the product of immigrants who traveled here.  And, like most Americans, I believe that immigrants should assimilate to our society by learning to speak the dominant (and soon-to-be official) language, English.  My disagreement with you on this issue is purely based on my political beliefs, and has absolutely nothing to do with xenophobia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lauren: I take offense to you calling me and others who support Mr. Vento &#8220;xenophobic conservatives.&#8221;  I do consider myself conservative, but I am in no way xenophobic.  Of the four years that I&#8217;ve spent at Penn, two were spent living with non-Americans.  I had great experiences with both of my foreign roommates.  Moreover, I fully support legal immigration to the United States.  Like most Americans, I&#8217;m the product of immigrants who traveled here.  And, like most Americans, I believe that immigrants should assimilate to our society by learning to speak the dominant (and soon-to-be official) language, English.  My disagreement with you on this issue is purely based on my political beliefs, and has absolutely nothing to do with xenophobia.</p>
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		<title>By: old</title>
		<link>http://lamp.dailypennsylvanian.com/thespin/2008/01/18/cheez-whiz-and-immigration-unlikely-bedfellows/#comment-2226</link>
		<dc:creator>old</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 18:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yea... this post is way out of date... this issue has been cold for ages</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yea&#8230; this post is way out of date&#8230; this issue has been cold for ages</p>
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		<title>By: JHF</title>
		<link>http://lamp.dailypennsylvanian.com/thespin/2008/01/18/cheez-whiz-and-immigration-unlikely-bedfellows/#comment-2219</link>
		<dc:creator>JHF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lindros888:

What kind of person reacts with such anger to criticism of overt intolerance?  In your eagerness to attack the author, you have thoroughly mischaracterized her point-- but I suppose that made your job easier.  The argument is not that Vento has an affirmative obligation to take orders in languages he does not understand.  (Did you really think that was the point?  Really?)  Rather, the point is that posting a sign like that (original version: "Speak American") and handing out similarly-themed bumper stickers is a campaign against non-native speakers of English.  If Vento doesn't speak Spanish, then a friendly shrug would convey that message when someone tries to order in Spanish.  If you can't muster the common sense to understand this point, I recommend keeping your reactions private rather than trumpeting your ignorance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lindros888:</p>
<p>What kind of person reacts with such anger to criticism of overt intolerance?  In your eagerness to attack the author, you have thoroughly mischaracterized her point&#8211; but I suppose that made your job easier.  The argument is not that Vento has an affirmative obligation to take orders in languages he does not understand.  (Did you really think that was the point?  Really?)  Rather, the point is that posting a sign like that (original version: &#8220;Speak American&#8221;) and handing out similarly-themed bumper stickers is a campaign against non-native speakers of English.  If Vento doesn&#8217;t speak Spanish, then a friendly shrug would convey that message when someone tries to order in Spanish.  If you can&#8217;t muster the common sense to understand this point, I recommend keeping your reactions private rather than trumpeting your ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindros88</title>
		<link>http://lamp.dailypennsylvanian.com/thespin/2008/01/18/cheez-whiz-and-immigration-unlikely-bedfellows/#comment-2216</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindros88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While Mr. Vento's sign may offend your hyper-liberal sensitivities, you yourself admit that he hasn't broken any municipal laws.  So I ask, what is your issue with Mr. Vento's desire to take orders exclusively in our national tongue (likely the only language he understands)?  Is Mr. Vento under some legal or moral obligation to take orders in Farsi or Cantonese?  Or is your real issue with the sign its patriotic theme?  (If the sign were printed in black and white and failed to remind patrons of their current geographic location, would there be a similar liberal outcry?  I doubt it.)  Geno's isn't a government institution providing fundamental services to all citizens; it's a private business serving a cheesesteak.  And if you can't handle the complexities of the English language required to order such a gourmet food, go to McDonalds where all you need to know are your numbers (Hint: 1=Big Mac).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Mr. Vento&#8217;s sign may offend your hyper-liberal sensitivities, you yourself admit that he hasn&#8217;t broken any municipal laws.  So I ask, what is your issue with Mr. Vento&#8217;s desire to take orders exclusively in our national tongue (likely the only language he understands)?  Is Mr. Vento under some legal or moral obligation to take orders in Farsi or Cantonese?  Or is your real issue with the sign its patriotic theme?  (If the sign were printed in black and white and failed to remind patrons of their current geographic location, would there be a similar liberal outcry?  I doubt it.)  Geno&#8217;s isn&#8217;t a government institution providing fundamental services to all citizens; it&#8217;s a private business serving a cheesesteak.  And if you can&#8217;t handle the complexities of the English language required to order such a gourmet food, go to McDonalds where all you need to know are your numbers (Hint: 1=Big Mac).</p>
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		<title>By: TLP</title>
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		<dc:creator>TLP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah this was a good post, or would have been a year ago.

By making a post like this, talking about this issue, you're doing the exact thing you criticized the media for: bringing extra attention to a nitwit like Vento.

((And it's "whiz wit" anyway, meaning "cheese whiz, with fried onions". For those who haven't tried, fried onions are a must, but for the love of all that's good and holy don't get a cheesesteak with cheese whiz. American cheese is better and doesn't run the risk of killing you.))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah this was a good post, or would have been a year ago.</p>
<p>By making a post like this, talking about this issue, you&#8217;re doing the exact thing you criticized the media for: bringing extra attention to a nitwit like Vento.</p>
<p>((And it&#8217;s &#8220;whiz wit&#8221; anyway, meaning &#8220;cheese whiz, with fried onions&#8221;. For those who haven&#8217;t tried, fried onions are a must, but for the love of all that&#8217;s good and holy don&#8217;t get a cheesesteak with cheese whiz. American cheese is better and doesn&#8217;t run the risk of killing you.))</p>
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		<title>By: Fire &#38; Ice Fo Life</title>
		<link>http://lamp.dailypennsylvanian.com/thespin/2008/01/18/cheez-whiz-and-immigration-unlikely-bedfellows/#comment-2214</link>
		<dc:creator>Fire &#38; Ice Fo Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what's a good, old, American name? Geno!  

I wonder if they have similar signs posted elsewhere... like "when ordering meat and produce only buy from farms and factories that employ employ naturalized American citizens"?  Do they prefer serving to any special dialects of English?  Do people who are actually FROM England get special treatment?  How about Native Americans?  Is sign language okay?  

I'm going avoid all possible pitfalls by going dressed in an American flag, an eagle perched on my shoulder, a copy of the US Constitution in hand.  On second thought, maybe I'll skip the constitution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what&#8217;s a good, old, American name? Geno!  </p>
<p>I wonder if they have similar signs posted elsewhere&#8230; like &#8220;when ordering meat and produce only buy from farms and factories that employ employ naturalized American citizens&#8221;?  Do they prefer serving to any special dialects of English?  Do people who are actually FROM England get special treatment?  How about Native Americans?  Is sign language okay?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m going avoid all possible pitfalls by going dressed in an American flag, an eagle perched on my shoulder, a copy of the US Constitution in hand.  On second thought, maybe I&#8217;ll skip the constitution.</p>
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		<title>By: Legal Eagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Legal Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not a cheese whiz fan, but I am a big fan of this post, which really nails an important legal and political issue.  Go tolerance!  Go free speech!  Looking forward to more from Lauren next week!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a cheese whiz fan, but I am a big fan of this post, which really nails an important legal and political issue.  Go tolerance!  Go free speech!  Looking forward to more from Lauren next week!</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Butler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Butler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why wouldn't Joey Vento delight in sharing Philly's pride and joy -- the cheesesteak -- with people of all nationalities and with all different immigration histories?  What possible benefit does Joey Vento derive from this kind of regressive xenophobia?  Thank you, Ms. Friedman, for writing about this truly repulsive civil rights violation.  I look forward to your next posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why wouldn&#8217;t Joey Vento delight in sharing Philly&#8217;s pride and joy &#8212; the cheesesteak &#8212; with people of all nationalities and with all different immigration histories?  What possible benefit does Joey Vento derive from this kind of regressive xenophobia?  Thank you, Ms. Friedman, for writing about this truly repulsive civil rights violation.  I look forward to your next posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Turtle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Turtle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post! Just one question: why is "speak English" in quotations? Would some variation on this theme be acceptable? Perhaps singing Spanglish would suffice. Joey Vento should reevaluate his own command on the English language before demanding it from others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! Just one question: why is &#8220;speak English&#8221; in quotations? Would some variation on this theme be acceptable? Perhaps singing Spanglish would suffice. Joey Vento should reevaluate his own command on the English language before demanding it from others.</p>
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