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	<title>Comments on: Are you smarter than a fifth grader?</title>
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		<title>By: Will.I.Am Friedman</title>
		<link>http://lamp.dailypennsylvanian.com/thespin/2008/02/22/are-you-smarter-than-a-fifth-grader/#comment-4297</link>
		<dc:creator>Will.I.Am Friedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps we cannot blame this kind of thinking soley on undergrads? Think of it this way: Parents are paying $50,000 per year for their son or daughter to attend college. What is the first question they ask their kid when he/she calls them? Is it, "What did you learn in  your Political Science class today?," OR is it "What did you get on that Political Science test?" 

Some students have become so trained to only care about what is on test.

In high school, it seemed like almost all teachers "taught to the textbook." In college, I've really began to appreciate the professors who will toss away the syllabus if there is interesting news occuring in the real world that relates to the class. For example, in a class called "Electoral Reform," we were supposed to learn about the rules and such about the nomination process and then the general election process. However, since the Democratic primary was so fascinating, we would spend the first hour of every class discussing the current race. Good stuff. Speaking of "Electoral Reform," I should be writing the final paper for that as we speak! Back to work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps we cannot blame this kind of thinking soley on undergrads? Think of it this way: Parents are paying $50,000 per year for their son or daughter to attend college. What is the first question they ask their kid when he/she calls them? Is it, &#8220;What did you learn in  your Political Science class today?,&#8221; OR is it &#8220;What did you get on that Political Science test?&#8221; </p>
<p>Some students have become so trained to only care about what is on test.</p>
<p>In high school, it seemed like almost all teachers &#8220;taught to the textbook.&#8221; In college, I&#8217;ve really began to appreciate the professors who will toss away the syllabus if there is interesting news occuring in the real world that relates to the class. For example, in a class called &#8220;Electoral Reform,&#8221; we were supposed to learn about the rules and such about the nomination process and then the general election process. However, since the Democratic primary was so fascinating, we would spend the first hour of every class discussing the current race. Good stuff. Speaking of &#8220;Electoral Reform,&#8221; I should be writing the final paper for that as we speak! Back to work!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 09:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree with your post, Lauren, I think one must really question Susan Jacoby's judgment--indeed, even her sanity. On a day as momentous as September 11, she was inspired by this one idiosyncratic experience? Wow, perhaps our nation's moral health is more deeply troubled than our dysfunctional, NEA-dominated public education system. 

Steve, while you are correct to point out that Iran is located between Iraq and Afghanistan, your statement about Iranian "resentment" is a non sequitur. Iranian boats approached and harassed U.S. Navy ships, not the other way around. Don't let Farsnews or the DailyKos convince you otherwise. In addition, Iranian Quds Forces have continually sent advanced weapons and insurgents (not to mention huge sums of money) to undermine coalition stability operations in Iraq. Contrary to the knee-jerk response of liberals and the academy, the U.S. is not to blame for the world's ills. The U.S. has been the greatest force for good in world history. I know that's hard for many liberals to accept. They love to assuage their feelings of guilt with arguments about the sins of "imperialism" and "orientalism" and about the need for "moral relativism" in the face of competing ideologies. But, at the end of the day, when driving home in their Lexus to their spacious house on a tree-lined cul-de-sac in Bryn Mawr or Ardmore, even they must realize how good they have it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree with your post, Lauren, I think one must really question Susan Jacoby&#8217;s judgment&#8211;indeed, even her sanity. On a day as momentous as September 11, she was inspired by this one idiosyncratic experience? Wow, perhaps our nation&#8217;s moral health is more deeply troubled than our dysfunctional, NEA-dominated public education system. </p>
<p>Steve, while you are correct to point out that Iran is located between Iraq and Afghanistan, your statement about Iranian &#8220;resentment&#8221; is a non sequitur. Iranian boats approached and harassed U.S. Navy ships, not the other way around. Don&#8217;t let Farsnews or the DailyKos convince you otherwise. In addition, Iranian Quds Forces have continually sent advanced weapons and insurgents (not to mention huge sums of money) to undermine coalition stability operations in Iraq. Contrary to the knee-jerk response of liberals and the academy, the U.S. is not to blame for the world&#8217;s ills. The U.S. has been the greatest force for good in world history. I know that&#8217;s hard for many liberals to accept. They love to assuage their feelings of guilt with arguments about the sins of &#8220;imperialism&#8221; and &#8220;orientalism&#8221; and about the need for &#8220;moral relativism&#8221; in the face of competing ideologies. But, at the end of the day, when driving home in their Lexus to their spacious house on a tree-lined cul-de-sac in Bryn Mawr or Ardmore, even they must realize how good they have it.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Whiskeyman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Whiskeyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 00:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lauren,

Thanks for the great post -- and the eye-opening Washington Post article. Jacoby's remarks about geography ring particularly true. I think if more Americans knew that Iran was sandwiched between - gasp - Iraq and Afghanistan, they might be more receptive to Iran's recent resentment of U.S. naval boats floating right at their gates.

Aaaand just for irony's sake, I'll leave you with a famous pop-culture quote... "Don't wanna be an A-mer-i-can Id-i-ot!"

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lauren,</p>
<p>Thanks for the great post &#8212; and the eye-opening Washington Post article. Jacoby&#8217;s remarks about geography ring particularly true. I think if more Americans knew that Iran was sandwiched between - gasp - Iraq and Afghanistan, they might be more receptive to Iran&#8217;s recent resentment of U.S. naval boats floating right at their gates.</p>
<p>Aaaand just for irony&#8217;s sake, I&#8217;ll leave you with a famous pop-culture quote&#8230; &#8220;Don&#8217;t wanna be an A-mer-i-can Id-i-ot!&#8221;</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: FediraFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>FediraFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a long conversation about this last night with a Canadian and Londoner. One finds Americans to have a charming naivete. The other finds offense to widespread and acceptable "ignorance." You'll never guess who had the harsher opinion...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a long conversation about this last night with a Canadian and Londoner. One finds Americans to have a charming naivete. The other finds offense to widespread and acceptable &#8220;ignorance.&#8221; You&#8217;ll never guess who had the harsher opinion&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Butler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Butler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh, how frustrating!  You would think that students attending a place like Penn would value the actual educational element of their education.  That was sad when Vietnam bombed Pearl Harbor.  Almost as sad as when Hitler invaded Pakistan to ignite the American Revolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh, how frustrating!  You would think that students attending a place like Penn would value the actual educational element of their education.  That was sad when Vietnam bombed Pearl Harbor.  Almost as sad as when Hitler invaded Pakistan to ignite the American Revolution.</p>
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		<title>By: Pinky Brewster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pinky Brewster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's amazing the kind of stupidity you overhear walking through the library or the streets of the city!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s amazing the kind of stupidity you overhear walking through the library or the streets of the city!</p>
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